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Straight talk on a much-lied-about subject: Practical tips and other thoughts regarding vegetarianism....
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Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Follow Jesus: Be a Vegetarian
Meat eating Christians are hypocrites.
There are so many articles out there about the humanitarian aspects, what Jesus would want and so on- but few really quote the Christian bible in strategic places. My cursory research turned up some real nuggets for the carnivore crowd to answer to. Get out your own bible and read along...
1. God provided plants for food, not animals. Genesis 1:29-30 :
"Then God said, 'I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and to all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground- everything that has the breath of life in it- I give every green plant for food.' And it was so. "
This obviously means the plants are for the animals to eat, incl. humans. That is the end of the food subject, and right before it is the verse everyone deliberately misinterprets: dominion does not mean "dominate", it just sounds similar. Dominion means responsibility for. Please consult a dictionary if you don't like this fact : man has responsibility for animals; he does not have free license to 'dominate' them. And even if that were the meaning, do we have the right to torture, kill, and eat prisoners just because we dominate them? What about the Iraqis- can we eat them? Or maybe professors dominating their classes- yikes!
2. God punishes meat consumption with death. Numbers 11:33 :
This story starts at Numbers 11:4, "...the Israelites started wailing and said, 'If only we had meat to eat!'..." Eating manna was not good enough for them, so God gave them meat to eat alright: "...until it comes out of your nostrils and you loathe it..."(20). Quail were provided in abundance, and all gathered it and started eating it. Then at 33, "But while the meat was still between their their teeth and before it could be consumed, the anger of the Lord burned against the people, and he struck them with a severe plague." Next in 11:34, it sums up: "Therefore the place was named Graves of Craving, because there they buried the people who had craved other food."
I am sure excuses will fly here, such as 'but they were in the desert!' or 'that's not what it meant, it meant, well- something else.' Okay.
3. Vegetarians are healthier and wiser. Daniel 1:12-16, 20 :
Daniel did not want to be "defiled" with the royal food and wine of the king. At 12 he says " 'Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.' So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days. At the end of ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. So the guard took away their choice food and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead. " After meeting the king, at 20, "In every matter of wisdom and understanding about which the king questioned them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters in his whole kingdom."
Imagine that.
4. God rejects sacrifices, appointed feasts, and prayers from those with blood on their hands. Isaiah 1:11-17 :
''The multitude of your sacrifices- what are they to me? ' says the Lord. ' I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you, this trampling of my courts? Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moon, Sabbaths, and convocations- I cannot bear your evil assemblies. Your new moon festivals and your appointed feasts my soul hates. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them. When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide my eyes from you: even if you offer many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood; wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right! ' "
So much for thanksgiving....appointed feasts, prayers, bloody sacrifices(ever seen how turkeys are killed?)....
5. Men are no better than animals. Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 :
" I also thought: 'As for men, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so does the other. All have the same spirit; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?' "
That one is my favorite. And the refutation of this verse is??? Animal hating rednecks walking around with their noses in the air thinking they are such hot shit because they are superior to animals and therefore have the right to slaughter them- need to read this part of their bibles. I am sure they would ignore it like most all christians ignore inconvenient passages.
Nevertheless, all christians need to read all of the above verses- especially that last one- and do some real thinking about their decomposing-animal-muscle addiction. Extreme cruelty, environmental destruction, health detriments, and one more thing: what would Jesus do?
Finally, I want to challenge anyone to locate a passage that clearly states that Jesus ate meat, even once. Providing fish for others does not count.
Statistics:
number of animals saved per year by not eating meat, per person: 50
number of christians in america alone: 159,000,000
number of vegetarians, estimated, in america only: 8,300,000
number of amer. christians that eat animals: approx. 150 million +
number of animals tortured, inhumanely slaughtered, and eaten in america each year, to feed christians:
7,500,000,000 (that's 7 Billion, 500 million)
number of christians that read their bibles: about 2% I am guessing...
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
What is a Vegetarian?
A vegetarian is someone who only eats plants and does not eat animals. It is amazing how this simple definition has been so corrupted, changed, nitpicked, redefined, and even blasphemed over the years.
Now the buzzword is vegan, which means one does not eat animal derived products either- such as dairy and eggs. This has been expanded to include gelatin, carmine, stearates, and numerous other animal ingredients. (A good idea if you can keep track of them all).
The carnivores are the ones who really corrupted the word though. There are morons that seem to believe the claim that fish are plants. They claim to be vegetarians- except for seafood, which makes them "pescatarians". Then there are the ones who like to think that birds are also plants. They don't eat "red" meat (cows), nor pork, but they have no problem eating chickens, turkeys, quails, ducks, geese, etc. They call themselves "pollo-vegetarians". This is an absurd corruption of the term "lacto-ovo-vegetarians" that later led to the term "vegans". There are even some poser-phonies out there calling themselves "flexitarians". They eat meat when they feel like it.
I recently read a study that referred to "veg*ns", which meant vegetarians or vegans.
The vegan crowd likes to fight with the vegetarians. They think they are better than the lowly dairy and egg eaters. The dairy and egg industries do contribute to cruelty to cows and chickens in a big way, and wreck your health as well as the environment- just like meat does.
There are a few things they do not consider though. Animal rights groups, especially PeTA, continually promote the nonsensical idea that being a vegan is cheap: since you don't buy meat it saves X amount off your grocery bill. They do not mention that the non-purchased meat will be replaced with plant products. And plants are more expensive to eat than animals. Fruits and vegetables are downright expensive, and meat is pretty cheap. This is unfortunate but true. The healthier foods always cost more. Whole wheat breads and flours cost more even though they are processed less than shelled and bleached 'white' flours. It's the same with brown and pure cane sugars compared to white sugar. It also costs more for organic veggies than ones that were fertilized and sprayed with pesticides. It costs them more money to grow the unhealthy stuff, yet it costs us more money to buy the more healthy stuff. Living as a vegetarian- of any sort- is expensive. If you are not fairly well off, you must replace veggies with pastas, as they are cheaper. They are not as good for you, but you have to afford being a herbivore somehow.
This brings me to a stranger problem many get themselves into. They decide to stop eating meat. They look up info on 'how' to be a vegetarian; they ask around. Then they try it. First, they notice their grocery bills are higher. Then they find that they are getting tired of the few replacements they have found for their meat habit. The cornucopia of meatless alternatives that the animal rights groups tell them are all over the grocery stores just aren't there (unless they shop at a major health food store, which are just in the bigger cities, and are an option only for the rich{see sidebar}). They rarely get good advice from others, and see all of the crazy formulae the vegan sites promote: eat one ounce of blackstrap molasses, 3 ounces of red beans, and 8 ounces of green leafy vegetables per meal. then... Give me a break.
At some point the new vegetarians usually turn to cheese as a replacement. I call these folks "cheesatarians". Cheese is barely- if at all- any healthier than meat. Avoiding dairy completely, as in all ingredients of all foods- is nigh impossible, especially if you are on a budget. But replacing meat with cheese pizzas, cheese burritos, ice cream, cheesy 'helpers', and so on will only clog your arteries even more than before.
Others turn to the fake meat products. I call them "meatatarians". Fake meats are a good snack from time to time, for something different. But they are simply way too expensive to eat regularly. They also continue the drive for the meat taste, and make kicking the meat habit nearly impossible. A relapse is sure to occur before long if you replace meat with stuff that looks, smells, feels, and tastes like real meat. Add in the fact that it costs ten times more, and sooner or later you will likely just switch back to the real stuff. If not, and you have no troubles buying fake meat over a long period of time- good for you. But for beginners, if you are serious about quitting, do not switch to fake meats. If nothing else, they will drain your pocketbooks. Peruse these actual prices I found* (expect much higher prices at "health food" stores):
sausage patties:
fake- .42 per oz.
real- .37 per oz.
sausage links:
fake- .84 per oz.
real- .27 per oz.
bacon:
fake- 1.31 per oz.
real- 0.22 per oz.
ground burger:
fake- .29 per oz.
real- .12 per oz.
chicken strips:
fake- 1.12 per oz.
real- 0.16 per oz.
chicken patties:
fake- .33 per oz.
real- .21 per oz.
burger patties:
fake- .35 per oz.
real- .10 per oz.
hot dogs:
fake- .25 to .37 per oz.
real- .10 per oz.
other fake meat prices:
chicken nuggets- 6 oz.: 5.55
meatballs- 10.6 oz.: 5.55
turkey roast- 16 oz.: 7.88
turkey burger- 9.9 oz.: 5.39
beef tips- 9 oz.: 5.39
buffalo wings- 9 oz.: 5.39
deli meat slices- 5.5 oz.: 2.95
(*figured from lowest prices of 6 different brands of fake meats and numerous brands of real meats at two different large-chain stores. none were on sale. prices from year 2010.)
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So in order to prevent yourself from becoming a 'meatatarian' or a 'cheesatarian', how do you switch to vegetarianism?
Simply stop eating meat. I covered this in detail in an older post. But what you should not do is worry about protein, nutrients, or other garbage. Just eat any plants and no animals. It can be that simple. Is a fish an animal? An oyster? Of course, but are they conscious, do they think and feel, and how does it harm the environment to farm clams or cod? Look it up on the net and find out. You will be shocked. I suggest erring on the side of caution and just eating plants only. Only. NO exceptions based upon excuses you or someone else thought up- just a line you drew beforehand: no animals.
This will make you a vegetarian. Simple isn't it? As for dairy and eggs- that depends on what you can afford to buy and not buy. Purchase the healthiest stuff you can, and if you cannot find anything without a cream or other dairy ingredient in it, well you tried. Just stick to the no animal rule, and let dairy and eggs become a gray area. Screw all the labels and bickering. Do what you can.
Now the buzzword is vegan, which means one does not eat animal derived products either- such as dairy and eggs. This has been expanded to include gelatin, carmine, stearates, and numerous other animal ingredients. (A good idea if you can keep track of them all).
The carnivores are the ones who really corrupted the word though. There are morons that seem to believe the claim that fish are plants. They claim to be vegetarians- except for seafood, which makes them "pescatarians". Then there are the ones who like to think that birds are also plants. They don't eat "red" meat (cows), nor pork, but they have no problem eating chickens, turkeys, quails, ducks, geese, etc. They call themselves "pollo-vegetarians". This is an absurd corruption of the term "lacto-ovo-vegetarians" that later led to the term "vegans". There are even some poser-phonies out there calling themselves "flexitarians". They eat meat when they feel like it.
I recently read a study that referred to "veg*ns", which meant vegetarians or vegans.
The vegan crowd likes to fight with the vegetarians. They think they are better than the lowly dairy and egg eaters. The dairy and egg industries do contribute to cruelty to cows and chickens in a big way, and wreck your health as well as the environment- just like meat does.
There are a few things they do not consider though. Animal rights groups, especially PeTA, continually promote the nonsensical idea that being a vegan is cheap: since you don't buy meat it saves X amount off your grocery bill. They do not mention that the non-purchased meat will be replaced with plant products. And plants are more expensive to eat than animals. Fruits and vegetables are downright expensive, and meat is pretty cheap. This is unfortunate but true. The healthier foods always cost more. Whole wheat breads and flours cost more even though they are processed less than shelled and bleached 'white' flours. It's the same with brown and pure cane sugars compared to white sugar. It also costs more for organic veggies than ones that were fertilized and sprayed with pesticides. It costs them more money to grow the unhealthy stuff, yet it costs us more money to buy the more healthy stuff. Living as a vegetarian- of any sort- is expensive. If you are not fairly well off, you must replace veggies with pastas, as they are cheaper. They are not as good for you, but you have to afford being a herbivore somehow.
This brings me to a stranger problem many get themselves into. They decide to stop eating meat. They look up info on 'how' to be a vegetarian; they ask around. Then they try it. First, they notice their grocery bills are higher. Then they find that they are getting tired of the few replacements they have found for their meat habit. The cornucopia of meatless alternatives that the animal rights groups tell them are all over the grocery stores just aren't there (unless they shop at a major health food store, which are just in the bigger cities, and are an option only for the rich{see sidebar}). They rarely get good advice from others, and see all of the crazy formulae the vegan sites promote: eat one ounce of blackstrap molasses, 3 ounces of red beans, and 8 ounces of green leafy vegetables per meal. then... Give me a break.
At some point the new vegetarians usually turn to cheese as a replacement. I call these folks "cheesatarians". Cheese is barely- if at all- any healthier than meat. Avoiding dairy completely, as in all ingredients of all foods- is nigh impossible, especially if you are on a budget. But replacing meat with cheese pizzas, cheese burritos, ice cream, cheesy 'helpers', and so on will only clog your arteries even more than before.
Others turn to the fake meat products. I call them "meatatarians". Fake meats are a good snack from time to time, for something different. But they are simply way too expensive to eat regularly. They also continue the drive for the meat taste, and make kicking the meat habit nearly impossible. A relapse is sure to occur before long if you replace meat with stuff that looks, smells, feels, and tastes like real meat. Add in the fact that it costs ten times more, and sooner or later you will likely just switch back to the real stuff. If not, and you have no troubles buying fake meat over a long period of time- good for you. But for beginners, if you are serious about quitting, do not switch to fake meats. If nothing else, they will drain your pocketbooks. Peruse these actual prices I found* (expect much higher prices at "health food" stores):
sausage patties:
fake- .42 per oz.
real- .37 per oz.
sausage links:
fake- .84 per oz.
real- .27 per oz.
bacon:
fake- 1.31 per oz.
real- 0.22 per oz.
ground burger:
fake- .29 per oz.
real- .12 per oz.
chicken strips:
fake- 1.12 per oz.
real- 0.16 per oz.
chicken patties:
fake- .33 per oz.
real- .21 per oz.
burger patties:
fake- .35 per oz.
real- .10 per oz.
hot dogs:
fake- .25 to .37 per oz.
real- .10 per oz.
other fake meat prices:
chicken nuggets- 6 oz.: 5.55
meatballs- 10.6 oz.: 5.55
turkey roast- 16 oz.: 7.88
turkey burger- 9.9 oz.: 5.39
beef tips- 9 oz.: 5.39
buffalo wings- 9 oz.: 5.39
deli meat slices- 5.5 oz.: 2.95
(*figured from lowest prices of 6 different brands of fake meats and numerous brands of real meats at two different large-chain stores. none were on sale. prices from year 2010.)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So in order to prevent yourself from becoming a 'meatatarian' or a 'cheesatarian', how do you switch to vegetarianism?
Simply stop eating meat. I covered this in detail in an older post. But what you should not do is worry about protein, nutrients, or other garbage. Just eat any plants and no animals. It can be that simple. Is a fish an animal? An oyster? Of course, but are they conscious, do they think and feel, and how does it harm the environment to farm clams or cod? Look it up on the net and find out. You will be shocked. I suggest erring on the side of caution and just eating plants only. Only. NO exceptions based upon excuses you or someone else thought up- just a line you drew beforehand: no animals.
This will make you a vegetarian. Simple isn't it? As for dairy and eggs- that depends on what you can afford to buy and not buy. Purchase the healthiest stuff you can, and if you cannot find anything without a cream or other dairy ingredient in it, well you tried. Just stick to the no animal rule, and let dairy and eggs become a gray area. Screw all the labels and bickering. Do what you can.
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Friday, September 11, 2009
Carnivores are Cannibals
Why do people eat meat anyway? After putting a lot of thought into this for several years, I have boiled down the answers to a few important reasons:
1. They were lied to when they were little kids, and brainwashed by their parents and t.v. Society backed up the lies and schools reinforced it. See older posts for lists of such lies. So they are brainwashed with nonsensical lies, and conditioned into thinking it is okay somehow for their health, the environment, and the animals.
2. They simply never make the connections that people with normal brains do. Meat is the muscle tissues that were ripped off the carcass of an animal. When animal tissues die, as from the death of the entire animal, they begin the process of decomposing. Unless they are preserved by infusion of caustic chemicals- such as leather. Is meat leather? No, it is non-preserved, dead tissues. Decomposing/rotting flesh. Refrigeration is a slow-down measure is all. Although these statements are obvious and should be considered common-sense, very few realize them. The connection to reality just isn't there for meat-eaters.
3, They are lazy. Eating meat is easy and cheap, and becomes a habit they just don't want to bother breaking. Too much trouble.
4. They are akin to drug addicts. Willpower is very low in meat eaters, and they just can't stop it, or so they think. They crave it like drug addicts crave their dope, or a smoker craves their next cigarette. It is a routine for them and changing it is beyond question- it just will never happen in their minds.
5. They have a serious mental problem. If you learn of extreme cruelty and then laugh it off or block it out, you are by definition psychotic or sociopathic. It is well established that cannibals and serial killers have a common mental problem stemming from injury to the pre-frontal cortex/frontal lobe. But excessive smoking also damages the pre-frontal cortex. So do heavy smokers eat more meat??? It sure seems like it to me. After years of heavy smoking, they lose their sense of right and wrong, and develop similar attitudes as cannibals/serial killers. Not too much of a stretch, really. Killing and eating animals is just as cruel, painful, horrifying, and evil as killing and eating humans is. So laughing off the fates of the animals they eat, supporting hunting, and acting arrogant and closed minded towards vegetarians is all part of their mental illness. Their brains are damaged and the brainwashing reinforces the errant beliefs. Tying together smokers and heavy meat eaters is not really too ridiculous if you think about it. How many vegans smoke? How many hunters smoke?....Not all carnivores smoke, but mental problems can occur in anyone, reinforced by delusions (societal brainwashing) and aggravated by second-hand smoke, chemicals in the meats, and other toxins. (This illness/addiction is well illustrated in a creepy movie called Ravenous.)
These are the main reasons people eat meat. It can be any one of or a combination of these. But at least one of these factors will be present in any carnivore's mind.
1. They were lied to when they were little kids, and brainwashed by their parents and t.v. Society backed up the lies and schools reinforced it. See older posts for lists of such lies. So they are brainwashed with nonsensical lies, and conditioned into thinking it is okay somehow for their health, the environment, and the animals.
2. They simply never make the connections that people with normal brains do. Meat is the muscle tissues that were ripped off the carcass of an animal. When animal tissues die, as from the death of the entire animal, they begin the process of decomposing. Unless they are preserved by infusion of caustic chemicals- such as leather. Is meat leather? No, it is non-preserved, dead tissues. Decomposing/rotting flesh. Refrigeration is a slow-down measure is all. Although these statements are obvious and should be considered common-sense, very few realize them. The connection to reality just isn't there for meat-eaters.
3, They are lazy. Eating meat is easy and cheap, and becomes a habit they just don't want to bother breaking. Too much trouble.
4. They are akin to drug addicts. Willpower is very low in meat eaters, and they just can't stop it, or so they think. They crave it like drug addicts crave their dope, or a smoker craves their next cigarette. It is a routine for them and changing it is beyond question- it just will never happen in their minds.
5. They have a serious mental problem. If you learn of extreme cruelty and then laugh it off or block it out, you are by definition psychotic or sociopathic. It is well established that cannibals and serial killers have a common mental problem stemming from injury to the pre-frontal cortex/frontal lobe. But excessive smoking also damages the pre-frontal cortex. So do heavy smokers eat more meat??? It sure seems like it to me. After years of heavy smoking, they lose their sense of right and wrong, and develop similar attitudes as cannibals/serial killers. Not too much of a stretch, really. Killing and eating animals is just as cruel, painful, horrifying, and evil as killing and eating humans is. So laughing off the fates of the animals they eat, supporting hunting, and acting arrogant and closed minded towards vegetarians is all part of their mental illness. Their brains are damaged and the brainwashing reinforces the errant beliefs. Tying together smokers and heavy meat eaters is not really too ridiculous if you think about it. How many vegans smoke? How many hunters smoke?....Not all carnivores smoke, but mental problems can occur in anyone, reinforced by delusions (societal brainwashing) and aggravated by second-hand smoke, chemicals in the meats, and other toxins. (This illness/addiction is well illustrated in a creepy movie called Ravenous.)
These are the main reasons people eat meat. It can be any one of or a combination of these. But at least one of these factors will be present in any carnivore's mind.
Friday, June 5, 2009
Barbecues and Cookouts: not just for meat
Since so many carnivores like to cook their meat outdoors on a grill, they think it is the only possibility. Vegans cooking out cause even more consternation than the fish issue (you know that thing where they can't understand that fish are animals).
It is advisable to have your own grill. A cheap 20. dollar one can be had. This prevents your food from getting meat juices and ashes on it. Call it the Virgin Vegan grill : never had meat on it, never will.
Corn on the cob works well to grill. Just throw it on. Also try shishkabobs with all manner of vegetable goodies on it. I like pineapples, mushrooms, baby corn, broccoli, and cauliflower. Possibilities are endless here. The large sliced portabella mushrooms will fry just as a hamburger will, and make excellent sandwiches.
Also use foil. Aluminum foil made into a bowl shape works well to cook mixed vegetables on a grill. Or wrap potatoes with it and place on top for awhile.
Pre-thawed frozen burritos are also good when cooked on grills. Another great food is fried mush(corn meal). Just make some up and refrigerate overnight. Then cut into slices- normally to fry in a pan, or put on the grill.
Use your imagination. Also see this article for some ideas.
It is advisable to have your own grill. A cheap 20. dollar one can be had. This prevents your food from getting meat juices and ashes on it. Call it the Virgin Vegan grill : never had meat on it, never will.
Corn on the cob works well to grill. Just throw it on. Also try shishkabobs with all manner of vegetable goodies on it. I like pineapples, mushrooms, baby corn, broccoli, and cauliflower. Possibilities are endless here. The large sliced portabella mushrooms will fry just as a hamburger will, and make excellent sandwiches.
Also use foil. Aluminum foil made into a bowl shape works well to cook mixed vegetables on a grill. Or wrap potatoes with it and place on top for awhile.
Pre-thawed frozen burritos are also good when cooked on grills. Another great food is fried mush(corn meal). Just make some up and refrigerate overnight. Then cut into slices- normally to fry in a pan, or put on the grill.
Use your imagination. Also see this article for some ideas.
Monday, May 18, 2009
Burger King / Bullshit King : NO vegan options
Burger King- home of the flame broiled Whoppers!
That logo is even more fitting than you may realize, since 'whoppers' also means 'lies' in the vernacular...
They sell a product called a 'veggie burger'. It is basically a whopper-style sandwich, but with a veggie-patty instead of meat. This is supposed to be a great alternative for vegetarian and vegan customers.
However, it is not at all: Burger King does not like to talk about the fact that their veggie patties are cooked in meat grease! All of their veggie patties are cooked right alongside their meat patties. Though it is on a chain grill, the chain is still very greasy and the grill's interior air is filled with meat smoke and meat grease. Plus, these patties contain tapioca, sugar, and "grill flavor". The buns contain butter, polysorbate-60, and stearates. The mayo on them contains eggs, sugar , and more polysorbate-60. (See link to animal ingredients list at right). No vegetarian would eat this, if only they knew how it was cooked or what was in it...
I did know though, as I used to work at a couple of them. So I tried to order one- but cooked in the microwave instead of on the grill.This was before I knew of the icky ingredients, by the way. They refused. I had to argue with the manager about it. She informed me that there are health code laws which require meat to be cooked to a certain internal temperature, so the microwave was not sufficient. When I asked what that had to do with it since the veggie burger is not made of meat, she stomped off. The funny thing is- this same exact event unfolded at two other stores in that same area (Kansas City), one in Cape Girardeau,MO , and again in Omaha, NE. The only difference was that not all of the managers stomped away, but all of them did refuse to serve me because of my simple request.
I decided to write to PeTA about it. I thought maybe they could contact the corporate headquarters of BK and get them to change their policy. No response. Now, years later, I find this snippet on the web:
PeTA gives BK an award for their veggie burger! (original article taken down down by peta- wonder why?)
It says nothing of how they cook it in meat grease.
Peta likes to make ridiculous compromises, putting p.r. above animal welfare. For example: KFC.
Regardless, if you are a vegetarian do not eat at Burger King- their "veggie" burgers are not fit for herbivore consumption!
That logo is even more fitting than you may realize, since 'whoppers' also means 'lies' in the vernacular...
They sell a product called a 'veggie burger'. It is basically a whopper-style sandwich, but with a veggie-patty instead of meat. This is supposed to be a great alternative for vegetarian and vegan customers.
However, it is not at all: Burger King does not like to talk about the fact that their veggie patties are cooked in meat grease! All of their veggie patties are cooked right alongside their meat patties. Though it is on a chain grill, the chain is still very greasy and the grill's interior air is filled with meat smoke and meat grease. Plus, these patties contain tapioca, sugar, and "grill flavor". The buns contain butter, polysorbate-60, and stearates. The mayo on them contains eggs, sugar , and more polysorbate-60. (See link to animal ingredients list at right). No vegetarian would eat this, if only they knew how it was cooked or what was in it...
I did know though, as I used to work at a couple of them. So I tried to order one- but cooked in the microwave instead of on the grill.This was before I knew of the icky ingredients, by the way. They refused. I had to argue with the manager about it. She informed me that there are health code laws which require meat to be cooked to a certain internal temperature, so the microwave was not sufficient. When I asked what that had to do with it since the veggie burger is not made of meat, she stomped off. The funny thing is- this same exact event unfolded at two other stores in that same area (Kansas City), one in Cape Girardeau,MO , and again in Omaha, NE. The only difference was that not all of the managers stomped away, but all of them did refuse to serve me because of my simple request.
I decided to write to PeTA about it. I thought maybe they could contact the corporate headquarters of BK and get them to change their policy. No response. Now, years later, I find this snippet on the web:
PeTA gives BK an award for their veggie burger! (original article taken down down by peta- wonder why?)
It says nothing of how they cook it in meat grease.
Peta likes to make ridiculous compromises, putting p.r. above animal welfare. For example: KFC.
Regardless, if you are a vegetarian do not eat at Burger King- their "veggie" burgers are not fit for herbivore consumption!
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Tips You Won't Hear from Animal Groups
One of the funniest claims made by animal rights groups is that you will save money by becoming a vegetarian. They always say that if you spend about 400. per year on meat, and then stop buying meat, you will save 400. a year. This is simplistic garbage. If you remove meat from your diet, then you will replace it with something else, and whatever that may be will most likely not be free. Usually it is replaced with fruits and vegetables. In case you haven't noticed, fruits and vegetables are pretty expensive! Much more expensive than meat even. It is easy, simple, and cheap to be a meat eater- that is a fact.
Of course the health, moral, and environmental benefits far outweigh those things to a mature person.
They also like to say how easy it is to replace meat with all the soy options available these days. Actually, there are several problems with fake meat products. For one thing they don't taste very good and people are turned off to vegetarianism after they try this stuff, thinking that they would rather eat meat if that's what this stuff tastes like. Also, fake meat products are very expensive. They cost about the same or more as buying the equivalent in real meat at a fast food joint. (Fake hot dogs, pkg. of 8: 4.00; real ones, pkg. of 12: 1.50.....etc. etc.). Many fake meats are also very spicy. I suppose the carnivores that formulate this stuff feel like they have to replace the meat flavor with something, so they spice it up. This is fine for Mexican vegetarians, but not me. Next, consider the availability that animal groups claim is so prevalent. Good luck locating it in your grocery store. Wal-Marts for example, seem to put it in a different place at each store I have been to. The last time I looked, these items were in between the waffles and the frozen juices. They also are never marked with a sign, and are never anywhere near the "health food" sections. Imagine that. Give this stuff a try but be aware of it's price and availability. Because of these factors fake meat makes a good snack on occasion but is not practical to use as a constant meat substitute.
As far as buying food at health food markets, you need to be rich or forget it. I have never seen one that didn't have outrageous prices on everything in the store. It is also interesting to note that all so-called 'health food' stores also sell meat, dairy, and eggs- just at exorbitant prices.
Soy cheese is also a waste of time and money. Read the ingredients: it will always say 'casein' on it. This is a milk-derived protein. By 'non-dairy' they mean that the lactose has been removed for lactose intolerant people, but it is not actually 'non-dairy' at all. I sometimes wonder how many years these companies will get away with this deceptive labeling. Anyway, fake cheese is rubbery and will not melt no matter what. Plus it is expensive. This stuff is a complete waste of effort.
It is semi-hilarious how the animal groups feel this constant need to post recipes for vegetarians. As if we are that stupid. All you need to do is leave the meat out of any normal recipe. Or for more detailed cooking- see this excellent chart. Obviously, the well meaning yet misguided animal groups are caught up in the propaganda and hype of how complex it supposedly is to not eat meat, so they want to make sure we know some recipes to get by on until we can get used to the list of what to eat and in what combinations, and so on. Like I said in other writings: just leave out the meat for starters, and go from there.
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The Basics of Switching Over
Don't let the meat-eaters confuse you: there is plenty for vegetarians to eat. This includes:
Soups- any soup is good with the meat left out. Vegetable stew is good too.
Pastas- spaghetti, lasagna, linguine, ravioli, etc. are all great- just don't throw in hamburger.
Pastas- spaghetti, lasagna, linguine, ravioli, etc. are all great- just don't throw in hamburger.
Salads- lettuce based, fruit combos, pasta and vegetable mixes; even bean salads can be made.
Mushrooms- can be made into many concoctions including burger-like patties,
Beans- many types of beans can be made into various dishes.
Fruits- many fruits can be made up many ways
Mushrooms- can be made into many concoctions including burger-like patties,
Beans- many types of beans can be made into various dishes.
Fruits- many fruits can be made up many ways
Vegetables- steaming is best; stir-frying is next best. There are so many kinds and combinations, and they can be added to anything. I like to bake squash in the oven, for example.
Casseroles- mixture dishes made in oven. Can find in most cookbooks.
There are also many vegetarian cookbooks, if you really need one. Altering recipes to make them vegetarian is simple as well. First, leave out the meat. If recipe says to put in eggs, replace each egg with one- half banana - it will bind ingredients just as well and not be noticeably tasted. Replace milk with soymilk. Be aware that most 'vegetarian' cookbooks have recipes with animal ingredients in them. Alter accordingly.
Soymilk comes in several brands and flavors. It is fine for cooking and has real flavor, making cow milk seem like water. It comes in several flavors, as well as unsweetened for diabetics. Besides soymilk, you can also try 'milk' made from almonds, pecans, hemp, rice, flaxseed, cashews, or coconut. Check notmilk.com.
Soy cheese is actually gross and rubbery, and will not melt. Just try to ween yourself off of cheese as much as possible. Do not replace meat with lots of cheesy stuff like some people do - it is no better for your health.
Keep in mind that the campaign to smear soy products as carcinogenic is nothing but a lie concocted by the meat industry. Absurd, as if meat does not cause cancer?? If soybeans contribute to cancer in any way, it is surely do to the glyphosate sprayed on them in the field, which is why organic grains are important.
Keep in mind that the campaign to smear soy products as carcinogenic is nothing but a lie concocted by the meat industry. Absurd, as if meat does not cause cancer?? If soybeans contribute to cancer in any way, it is surely do to the glyphosate sprayed on them in the field, which is why organic grains are important.
Fake meat is expensive, but can be a good snack sometimes. Soy meat can taste a lot like real meat. Veggie-meat does not. Fake hot dogs, corn dogs, chicken patties, bbq riblets, and polish sausages all taste very real. Other items do not usually. You can also get soy crumbles to cook as ground hamburger. This is good for chili or tacos.
Eating fish is not vegetarian; some people just can't understand that fish are not plants. They are supposedly good for the heart because of omega oils. However, flaxseed oil and some vitamin E pills have it too. Fish have high concentrations of toxins and heavy metals in them anyway, so they are not worth the minimal arterial lubrication anticipated by the trace amounts of omega oils in them. (This blogger once had very high triglycerides due to untreated diabetes. Not able to afford the prescription for it, I took flaxseed oil pills instead. My doctor was amazed that this worked better and faster than the fenofibrate would have, had I taken it.)
Eggs are extremely high in cholesterol and animal proteins and therefore should be avoided as well.
Also be careful to avoid gelatin, mayonnaise, and other unhealthy animal products. See the animal ingredients list linked to in sidebar.
This still leaves lots of different foods to eat. Start by trying anything without meat in it. Find stuff you like and expand on it, making them into larger and more detailed dishes. Also try boxed and package dinners such as tuna helpers and instant rice meals - just don't add meat like they suggest.
Following these basics will have you well on your way to a healthier, more responsible lifestyle.
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Answering Carnivores
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I am a stalky person, at 220 lbs. and mostly muscle. So whenever someone finds out I am a vegetarian, they are invariably shocked. Once they realize I was not joking, the questions begin. Here are the most common ones, and my standard answers to them:
Q: You eat fish don't you? (always the first question!)
A: No, I said I am a vegetarian. Vegetarians by definition eat only plants- not animals. Fish are not plants. Fish are animals.
Q: But I know someone that's a vegetarian, and they eat fish (or chicken, turkey, etc.)...
A: Then your friend is not a vegetarian, they are claiming to be just to get attention. Vegetarians do not eat animals.
Q: Then what DO you eat??!
A: Anything without meat in it. Just look next time you are at the grocery store. There are a lot of foods without meat in them.
Q: Like what? (still not comprehending that there are foods without meat in them)...
A: Salads, pastas, casseroles, box dinners, fruits, vegetables, grains and nuts, potato based items, other stuff....and combinations thereof.
Q: But how do you get enough protein? Do you take pills for it?
A: By eating. Plants have protein in them too, which is more than enough. How do you think cows get to be 1,500 pounds of muscle- by eating grass! As long as I am not literally starving to death, I am getting enough protein.There are protein powders you can get for bodybuilders, but vegetarians don't use them nor need them.
Q: But you have to eat special foods then, right?
A: No. I have made no effort to eat special foods of any kind and have yet to become protein deficient, skinny, weak, anemic, or anything else. I am fine. All of the vegetarian guides written by animal rights groups and so-called medical professionals always tell you to eat a strange mixture of blackstrap molasses, nuts, this/ that/ and the other- so you will get 'enough' protein from your new plant-only diet. But it is all overkill.
Q: If weightlifters take all those protein supplements, then it must be good for you....
A: No it is not! They may be getting quicker results building muscle mass with this stuff, but they are also damaging their livers and kidneys. Plant proteins and animal proteins are slightly different, and the plant ones do not hurt you. But the animal ones have been proven to be the cause of virtually every human ailment there is, especially cancer. Why risk all this to have bigger arms?
Q: Then why would doctors eat meat if it is so bad for you?
A: For the same reason some doctors smoke. Anyway, most medical schools do not even have nutrition classes, and registered dieticians are just taught the same old flawed, biased 'science' that we were all taught in grade school. Every scientific study and every large human population study ever done on human diet has proven beyond any doubt that meat consumption is very, very bad for you. (except the studies paid for by the meat industry).
Q: Then how come Eskimos live longer than us even though they eat whale blubber, seals, and fish all the time?
A: That is a myth. The truth is that Eskimos have one of the lowest life expectancies of any culture in the world: less than 35 years. This is surely due to their diets.
Q: Well I can't give up my meat.....
A: I am sorry to hear that. Once someone stops eating it for awhile they realize how bland it really tastes compared to other foods. But it's your health....
Q: Yeah, but we are a 'meat and potatoes' kind of family.
A: What is your family's history of obesity, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, and other ailments? Because these are all caused by eating meat. And what do potatoes have to do with it?
Usually, by this time, they run out of points to argue and get very uncomfortable. Then they awkwardly excuse themselves somehow and slink off...................
A Few Things That Never Occurred to Meat Eaters
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When a carnivore tries to take a vegetarian out to lunch, they invariably become frustrated. They do not understand that our eating habits differ from their preconceived views of it. I recently had this happen, and my host was very nice and well meaning, but just had no idea.
I thought it would be beneficial to list some of the concepts that are alien to them:
- We do not eat meat, and this includes little pieces of it such as bacon bits. Nor do we eat meat grease, so peeling pepperonis off of a pizza does not make it edible for us. If you refused to eat worms, and someone gave you a worm covered pizza and then picked them off of it, would you then eat it? Same thing.
- We also do not eat foods fried in meat grease or lard, or otherwise in the same vats of such stuff. So if you order some french fries for us, but the business only has one fry vat and they also sell fried chicken strips, we are not going to eat it. Why would we want to eat grease soaked fries?
- There are a lot of things made from animals that we won't eat, and the list of things we avoid depends partly upon how picky each of us is, but mainly upon how much each of us is aware of. See the linked list on the right. The main things I avoid, for example, are gelatin and stearic acid. Just a few days ago I shocked someone by informing them of what gelatin is made of. So basic to people like me; so unknown to carnivores.
- We are not obsessed with salads, and do not want one at every meal. Salads can be delicious and very healthy, but they are not very filling. Plus the ingredients of the dressings are usually unhealthy.
- We are not going to eat at a fast food place, usually. Besides the fry vat issues, and the grease being everywhere and on everything (work at one and you will understand), it is still fresh in the memories of vegetarians how mcdonald's used lard to cook their fries in for many years, and then lied about it. Once some Hindus found out, the lawsuit was on- and guess who lost? Not the millions of vegetarians who joined this massive class action suit. So call it spite I guess, but most of us still shun that place. It is a good thing too, since mcdonald's now shamelessly admits to flavoring their fries with beef yet again. Also, burger king does not cook their so-called veggie burgers in a vegan friendly manner, but that will be the subject of a separate post. We just don't trust fast food places to give a crap about our requests, even if they were prepared to deliver on it.
These were the most common and basic things that carnivores never think of. There are more to be sure, but this list should be a helpful guide to those who previously had no idea.
Protein Myth DEBUNKED- Again!
Yet again, the protein myth has been debunked- this time by the author of this site!
I had a blood test done by a doctor, who sent it off to a diagnostics lab in Lenexa, KS. The results were mighty interesting. I will state right now that anyone wanting proof of what I am about to say may request a copy of the test results, and I will scan and email the lab report to them.
The report says I have normal levels of everything. Everything. Including protein. That is interesting because I have been a vegan for 16 years now. But the blood test reveals that my protein level is 7.4, and the reference range is 6.2 to 8.3 . Imagine that.
And I never once in my ten years of being a vegan made any attempt at all to 'get enough' protein, take special supplements, eat certain foods or combinations thereof, or even try tofu. Ten years of living without animal proteins, and I am fine. Strong, stalky, healthy, and protein-perfect- according to the lab.
Just think on that one for a bit...
Update-
originally posted this note on 5/09; now as of 4/16, my bloodwork has consistently- without exception- yielded perfect protein levels up to the present day. And I still make no effort to 'get enough' protein. I have no idea how to cook tofu and take no supplements.
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do i really get my blood tested every 6 months? yes i do! because i have type 2 diabetes, and they do a test called H1Ac bi-yearly to see if medications need adjusting...
Update-
originally posted this note on 5/09; now as of 4/16, my bloodwork has consistently- without exception- yielded perfect protein levels up to the present day. And I still make no effort to 'get enough' protein. I have no idea how to cook tofu and take no supplements.
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do i really get my blood tested every 6 months? yes i do! because i have type 2 diabetes, and they do a test called H1Ac bi-yearly to see if medications need adjusting...
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